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Re: Pictures are worth 1002 words
« Reply #360 on: June 27, 2011, 03:41:26 PM »

Hey Feldynn, where was the shot of the Pao taken?
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Re: Pictures are worth 1002 words
« Reply #361 on: June 27, 2011, 04:38:12 PM »

It was on the Eiger Nordwand W Trail, the short rally course.  Yes I know, I actually took a 50hp FF car rallying :).
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Re: Pictures are worth 1002 words
« Reply #362 on: June 27, 2011, 07:38:22 PM »





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Re: Pictures are worth 1002 words
« Reply #363 on: June 28, 2011, 12:26:43 PM »

Couple more from me, an older shot I took of the Nissan R290 GT1 Race Car I just found again and forgot how cool I thought it looked :) ..



.. and the original Nissan PAO shot I used in that triptych earlier, tweaked a bit in Photoshop to try and make it look like an old black and white photo.

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Re: Pictures are worth 1002 words
« Reply #364 on: June 28, 2011, 12:32:31 PM »

.. and the original Nissan PAO shot I used in that triptych earlier, tweaked a bit in Photoshop to try and make it look like an old black and white photo.



Perfect picture for the process, Being a film photographer my self, the only thing I would have done differently is that I would have run the grain the other way, horizontally.
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Re: Pictures are worth 1002 words
« Reply #365 on: June 28, 2011, 12:47:36 PM »

Thanks for the tip Ronin :), I just recently got my hands on an older version of Photoshop Elements so I'm still in the beginning of learning the features (previously I had a 13 year old beta version of Paint Shop Pro), any particular reason you'd go with horizontal over vertical for the grain?  Guessing it might be that was the way photos were taken / processed back then so it caused horizontal grain but I am genuinely curious :).
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Re: Pictures are worth 1002 words
« Reply #366 on: June 28, 2011, 01:19:21 PM »

I'm interested in the answer to this as well. Just out of curiosity, I started looking up old photos and most I have come across have no grain pattern.

If anything, it looks like a still shot from a movie.

Either way, the photo is great looking Feldynn.
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Re: Pictures are worth 1002 words
« Reply #367 on: June 28, 2011, 01:21:24 PM »


Either way, the photo is great looking Feldynn.

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Re: Pictures are worth 1002 words
« Reply #368 on: June 28, 2011, 01:21:54 PM »

Another nit-picky comment Feldynn.  In general you want to lead your viewers eyes into the picture and not out of the picture.  In a lot of pictures, you have the car at one edge pointed out of the picture.  Sometimes that works but often it is better the other way.
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Re: Pictures are worth 1002 words
« Reply #369 on: June 28, 2011, 01:41:03 PM »

Thanks for the tip Ronin :), I just recently got my hands on an older version of Photoshop Elements so I'm still in the beginning of learning the features (previously I had a 13 year old beta version of Paint Shop Pro), any particular reason you'd go with horizontal over vertical for the grain?  Guessing it might be that was the way photos were taken / processed back then so it caused horizontal grain but I am genuinely curious :).

Photographic film is coated with an emulsion containing light-sensitive silver halide salts, it is these crystals that are the grain. In 35mm (most commonly shot film in use today) the grain is usually fine enough to the point where one can not see the actual grain pattern even after reasonable enlargement but it is there. On most film the grain runs from end to end the long way when it's manufacturered, It's very rare for film grain to run across the short way, I've only seen it a few times and all have been in large format films. In standard 35mm SLR's (and subsequently digital SLR's) the field is oriented slightly longer side to side to optimize the film useage, my Canon EF has a frame of 24 x 36 mm for example. That said the grain will naturally flow horizontally under natural orientation and up and down under portrait orientation. I like to remember it as "The grain flows the way the film travels through the camera."

Additionally, I am also aware of the shortcomings in photoshops grain emulation filter. There are unnatural gaps in the grain patern with the filter, these gaps are easier to conceal in the composition of the photo by running it horizontally.

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« Reply #370 on: June 28, 2011, 02:24:56 PM »

Another nit-picky comment Feldynn.  In general you want to lead your viewers eyes into the picture and not out of the picture.  In a lot of pictures, you have the car at one edge pointed out of the picture.  Sometimes that works but often it is better the other way.

I would say it works in his last photo because otherwise the pole would be in the way. :tsssh2
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Re: Pictures are worth 1002 words
« Reply #371 on: June 28, 2011, 02:27:14 PM »

Beauty in things exists merely in the mind which contemplates them.
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Re: Pictures are worth 1002 words
« Reply #372 on: June 28, 2011, 02:42:09 PM »

Thanks Ronin, that's a great explaination and makes a lot of sense!

Another nit-picky comment Feldynn.  In general you want to lead your viewers eyes into the picture and not out of the picture.  In a lot of pictures, you have the car at one edge pointed out of the picture.  Sometimes that works but often it is better the other way.

I think I know what you're talking about GT11, have the subject (i.e. the car) more centralized like Chrome did with the GT-R or on the side pointing into the image a bit like I did with the E-Type + windmills on the other page (car on the left side, pointing to the right and "across" the body of the image)?
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Re: Pictures are worth 1002 words
« Reply #373 on: June 28, 2011, 03:54:38 PM »

Beauty in things exists merely in the mind which contemplates them.

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I'm not much for post production editting. I don't have a good photo program at home, but have Photoshop CS5 at work. With the amount of pics I like to take, I wouldn't get any work done, if I started "souping up" my pics.  :laugh
I like 'em straight out of the game for the most part.
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Re: Pictures are worth 1002 words
« Reply #374 on: June 28, 2011, 04:08:27 PM »

Beauty in things exists merely in the mind which contemplates them.

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I'm not much for post production editting. I don't have a good photo program at home, but have Photoshop CS5 at work. With the amount of pics I like to take, I wouldn't get any work done, if I started "souping up" my pics.  :laugh
I like 'em straight out of the game for the most part.

I'm mostly with you there Chrome, I take a lot of pics too so what little post editing I've done to date pretty much begins with "cut n paste" and ends with basic features like putting borders on things (i.e. using the border feature or drawing a square outline around the image :laugh).

I need to delete some of my early GT5 photos, just ambled over the 1000 files marker (about 410mb) :D.
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