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• American Classic TRANS-AM: October 12, 2012

[RickS95]

I got tired of listening to Phil Simms comment on the football game so I took out the Corvette for some fun at Daytona.  It's so much easier to drive than the Ford.  The tire wear is very even and for the first 10 laps you can run 10 tenths and the car accepts it.  After that, you have to change your thinking a little, but if you just take a few turns in a higher gear you can still run at 10 tenths.

Like I did with the Ford, I drove it like I stole it.  Got down to 1:39.1 which is a bit faster than I ran a couple weeks ago.  I was on pace for about a 38.8 but never got it.  Still, that's a bit closer to the Ford than I expected.  However, the Corvette makes up all its time on the Ford through the bus stop.  As you get toward the end of the tire wear, the Corvette is still very planted, but you simply can't take the bus stop quite as fast and the lap times start to grow.

I got 20 laps on the tires and I drove the shit out the car.  I'd expect to see maybe 22-23 at a more casual pace.  The one thing I noticed is that in addition to take the bus stop a bit slower, the brakes started to kill lap times as well.  I went deeper and deeper into turns and like I said, the lap times started to grow.

Never did the Corvette scare me.  It got my attention a few times, but I never felt like I was on the edge.  Also, it ran very consistent laps.  Also also, it uses slightly more fuel than the Ford. 

I'm going to run the Ford again with a different setup and see if I can get a few more laps out the tires, but I think car choice for me is going to be decided by how many laps the race is.  In addition, I ran the Ford with a couple PP sitting in my pocket so if the Ford is allowed to run full PP that might affect car choice.  Hopefully we can see some race parameters agreed upon soon.

[RickS95]

I had a brilliant write up today but when I hit the 'post' button, I got some bullshit timed out message and my literary masterpiece was gone.

Anyway, I tried to run the Viper.  It sucks so I changed cars after a couple laps and drove some more in the Ford.  I wanted to try the new physics and see what happened with tire wear if I slowed down a bit.  Actually, in going slower, I turned in my fastest lap since I've been testing.  I ran fairly easily and got 18 laps out of the Ford.  Might have been able to get 19, but that passenger's side rear was almost gone and I was mostly scared during that 18rd lap.  I probably could have run easier, but it's hard for me to throttle back.

I ran very consistent laps, never seeing a 1:42 til lap 17 I think.  Last week, I only got 16 laps out of the tires, so now I'm curious about the Corvette and seeing if it will get 20 laps or more with the new update.

The Ford is still going to be a full second faster for every lap, but I think the Corvette will be able to go a couple laps more, if not 3 or even 4 laps more.  I ran the Ford at 643 to match the other two cars, but I think we should run the cars where they fall, meaning the Ford runs at 645 to make up for the tires and the fact that guys in the Ford are more likely to crash/spin out at least once when the tires wear, whereas the Chevy guys probably won't because the Corvette is never scary.

[Wolfpack987]

I think I found your post in another thread in this Enduro section.

I played around with the new physics before heading into work.  In one of my lounges I didn't notice any difference between the old version and the new update.

I was hoping to run some laps in the Viper, but I simply couldn't.  I pitted after 3 laps and changed cars.  My tune might suck, but it felt good and planted all the way around the track, it's simply not fast enough.  I did an engine refresh and that gave me the 1 PP I was missing so I've got all three cars running at 643 (though the Ford will hit 645...more on that later).

After pitting, I grabbed the Ford to see the number of laps I could expect running a bit easier than last week.  I lessened the downforce a bit up front and in the back to see if I could extend the tires a bit.  Last week I went 16 laps and the last couple were pretty hairy, but I ran balls to the wall the whole time.  This time I eased up a bit, stayed in a taller gear for the sweepers, and squeezed the throttle instead of trying to put it through the firewall.

My first almost spin was on lap 12, which I believe was the same as last time.  However, I babied it a bit and got 18 laps out of the rears (still plenty on the fronts).  I really think I could have gone 19 but the passenger side rear was way low and it was getting pretty squirrelly.  The laps were very consistent and despite not really pushing the car, I cracked my first 1:37.

Unless someone is simply into Detroit iron, I can't see anyone taking the Viper in this race.  It seems pretty far off the pace of the other two cars and doesn't make up for it in handling (maybe you can go 20+ laps on the tires and that might make it competitive).

I see this race coming down to the Corvette and the Ford GT LM.  The Corvette is cake to drive and you'll get 20 laps easily (unfortunately, I'm going to have to run another session in the Corvette to see if babying the car on the new physics increases tire wear).  The Ford is over a second a lap faster, but it's going to get a minimum of 2 laps less on the tires.

My best time in the Ford is 1:37.8 and my best in the Corvette is 1:39.1.  I think I can see 37.5 in the Ford and 38.8 in the Corvette.  Also, the Ford still has a couple PP to play with if we run the cars stock (the Corvette runs at 643 and the Ford at 645).  I think we should run the cars at the PP they come with, meaning the Ford is a couple up on the other two cars, to offset the shitty tire wear and the fact that people are more likely to spin out in the Ford as the tire grip diminishes.

http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=2116.0

That it?   

[RickS95]

I think I found your post in another thread in this Enduro section.

I played around with the new physics before heading into work.  In one of my lounges I didn't notice any difference between the old version and the new update.

I was hoping to run some laps in the Viper, but I simply couldn't.  I pitted after 3 laps and changed cars.  My tune might suck, but it felt good and planted all the way around the track, it's simply not fast enough.  I did an engine refresh and that gave me the 1 PP I was missing so I've got all three cars running at 643 (though the Ford will hit 645...more on that later).

After pitting, I grabbed the Ford to see the number of laps I could expect running a bit easier than last week.  I lessened the downforce a bit up front and in the back to see if I could extend the tires a bit.  Last week I went 16 laps and the last couple were pretty hairy, but I ran balls to the wall the whole time.  This time I eased up a bit, stayed in a taller gear for the sweepers, and squeezed the throttle instead of trying to put it through the firewall.

My first almost spin was on lap 12, which I believe was the same as last time.  However, I babied it a bit and got 18 laps out of the rears (still plenty on the fronts).  I really think I could have gone 19 but the passenger side rear was way low and it was getting pretty squirrelly.  The laps were very consistent and despite not really pushing the car, I cracked my first 1:37.

Unless someone is simply into Detroit iron, I can't see anyone taking the Viper in this race.  It seems pretty far off the pace of the other two cars and doesn't make up for it in handling (maybe you can go 20+ laps on the tires and that might make it competitive).

I see this race coming down to the Corvette and the Ford GT LM.  The Corvette is cake to drive and you'll get 20 laps easily (unfortunately, I'm going to have to run another session in the Corvette to see if babying the car on the new physics increases tire wear).  The Ford is over a second a lap faster, but it's going to get a minimum of 2 laps less on the tires.

My best time in the Ford is 1:37.8 and my best in the Corvette is 1:39.1.  I think I can see 37.5 in the Ford and 38.8 in the Corvette.  Also, the Ford still has a couple PP to play with if we run the cars stock (the Corvette runs at 643 and the Ford at 645).  I think we should run the cars at the PP they come with, meaning the Ford is a couple up on the other two cars, to offset the shitty tire wear and the fact that people are more likely to spin out in the Ford as the tire grip diminishes.

http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=2116.0

That it?   

Yep, that's the brilliant piece.  After my computer blew up I couldn't find the damned thing.

[DudeTuna]

Effin awesome ^ 

[slowmantuna]

can i play toooo?

[DudeTuna]

Yes

[RickS95]

can i play toooo?

Yes, but you have to drive the Viper and take mandatory pit stops.

[DudeTuna]

Also, the OP needs some updating. There is a new set of cars and specifications for the next race.

[slowmantuna]

can i play toooo?

Yes, but you have to drive the Viper and take mandatory pit stops.

YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME. IN FACT I'LL DRIVE THE VIPER, BUT I REFUSE TO PIT. THAT'LL OUGHTA LEARN YOU!!!!

[RickS95]

can i play toooo?

Yes, but you have to drive the Viper and take mandatory pit stops.

YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME. IN FACT I'LL DRIVE THE VIPER, BUT I REFUSE TO PIT. THAT'LL OUGHTA LEARN YOU!!!!

Oh, so you're going to be like Spec in the last enduro we ran together? 

[slowmantuna]

why yes, i suppose i wll be. god that was funny!!!!!

[RickS95]

why yes, i suppose i wll be. god that was funny!!!!!

For those who have no idea what we're talking about, in the last 4-letter enduro, Spec, Hey and I were on a team.  We'd worked on the car for what seemed like months and had a workable tune and a perfect strategy.  We'd calculated how much fuel each lap took and how many pit stops we'd have to make, and armed with those numbers, how much fuel we needed to get at each pit stop to make it to the end.

Spec completely misunderstood the message and ran out of fuel...twice. 

[DudeTuna]

Box! Box! Box!

[slowmantuna]

why yes, i suppose i wll be. god that was funny!!!!!

For those who have no idea what we're talking about, in the last 4-letter enduro, Spec, Hey and I were on a team.  We'd worked on the car for what seemed like months and had a workable tune and a perfect strategy.  We'd calculated how much fuel each lap took and how many pit stops we'd have to make, and armed with those numbers, how much fuel we needed to get at each pit stop to make it to the end.

Spec completely misunderstood the message and ran out of fuel...twice. 

god that was funny