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Re: FIA Formula One World Championship
« Reply #345 on: May 29, 2013, 11:16:36 PM »

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Re: FIA Formula One World Championship
« Reply #346 on: May 30, 2013, 09:20:28 AM »

Somebody get Dude his meds.     :laugh
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Re: FIA Formula One World Championship
« Reply #347 on: May 30, 2013, 09:39:36 AM »

Somebody get Dude his meds.     :laugh

Now I remember why I stopped drunk posting. 
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Re: FIA Formula One World Championship
« Reply #348 on: June 04, 2013, 08:39:49 AM »

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Re: FIA Formula One World Championship
« Reply #349 on: June 04, 2013, 10:37:46 AM »

That track is a blast to drive (F1 champ. edition)... It'd be a great track for gt6

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Re: FIA Formula One World Championship
« Reply #350 on: June 04, 2013, 03:24:37 PM »

That track is a blast to drive (F1 champ. edition)... It'd be a great track for gt6

I've driven it in real life.
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Re: FIA Formula One World Championship
« Reply #351 on: June 21, 2013, 09:47:18 AM »

The ruling is in for the Merc / Pirelli tire test gate thingy.

Pirelli reprimanded. Mercedes reprimanded and banned from young driver test. NO FINES – NO POINTS DEDUCTIONS

(1) The track testing, which is the subject of these proceedings, was not carried out by Pirelli and/or Mercedes with the intention that Mercedes should obtain any unfair sporting advantage.
(2) Neither Pirelli nor Mercedes acted in bad faith at any material time.
(3) Both Pirelli and Mercedes disclosed to FIA at least the essence of what they intended to do in relation to the test and attempted to obtain permission for it; and Mercedes had no reason to believe that approval had not been given .
(4) The actions taken on behalf of FIA by Charlie Whiting (having taken advice from the legal department of FIA) were taken in good faith and with the intention of assisting the parties and consistent with sporting fairness.

Notwithstanding the above findings:
(i) by running its car(s) in the course of the testing, Mercedes acted in breach of Article 22.4 h) SR;
(ii) insofar as FIA expressed its qualified approval for the testing to be carried out, that approval could not, and did not, vary the express prohibition stipulated by Article 22 SR and neither Mercedes nor Pirelli took adequate steps to ensure that the qualification was satisfied. In this regard the Tribunal takes particular note of the fact that it was, very properly, not submitted on behalf of Pirelli, nor was there any evidence that, the assurance which it was not disputed Mr Paul Hembery, Pirelli Motorsport Director, had given to Charlie Whiting (as set out in paragraph 5 above) had in fact been acted on at any material time;
(iii) the testing would, however, not have been carried out by either Mercedes or Pirelli if that qualified approval had not been expressed by the representatives of the FIA in the way in which it is admitted by FIA it was;
(iv) The Tribunal is unable to express any opinion as to whether or not the testing carried out by Ferrari in 2012 and 2013 was properly authorised but, it would appear to be equally unsatisfactory that this
consent was also given by Charlie Whiting, the Tribunal has no evidence before it which indicates that his opinion in that case had in fact been wrong.
(v) Mercedes did obtain some material advantage (even if only by way of confirmation of what had not gone wrong) as a result of the testing, which, at least potentially, gave it an unfair sporting advantage, to the knowledge and with the intention of Pirelli. In the light of the data which Pirelli did in fact pass to Mercedes by way of the confidential email referred to under paragraph 37.8 above, it is plain beyond sensible argument that Pirelli had intended confidentially to pass some data to Mercedes, which Pirelli expressly regarded as being of high importance even if, as we accept, it was in fact of limited value to Mercedes because it was unaware of the tyre(s) to which the report related.
(vi) No other team was aware of the fact that such advantage might be, or had been, obtained, notwithstanding the assurance which had been given by Paul Hembery to Charlie Whiting, as set out in paragraph 5 above; and the Tribunal notes that, when giving that assurance, Paul Hembery had not indicated to Charlie Whiting that the notification which Pirelli had already given to all teams in 2012 could satisfy the assurance which was being sought.
(vii) Both Mercedes and Pirelli, accordingly, did act in breach of articles 1 and 151 ISC.

SANCTIONS AND COSTS

41. Article 153 ISC provides for a scale of penalties, as set out under paragraph 12 above.
42. Based on all the circumstances of the case and: (i) with the specific objective that, insofar as it is reasonably practicable to do so, the other teams should be placed in a similar position to that in which Mercedes is in as a result of the breach of article 22 SR and articles 1 and 151 ISC and Pirelli of articles 1 and 151 ISC ; (ii) in recognition of the fact that the testing would not have taken place but for the bona fide, but misconceived “qualified approval” which was given on behalf of the FIA, the Tribunal decides that the most appropriate sanctions and orders are that :
• Mercedes be reprimanded in the terms of the findings set out above.
• Mercedes be suspended from participating in the forthcoming “three day young driver training test.
• Mercedes shall pay one third of the costs of the investigation and procedure, as provided for by Article 13.2 JDR, excluding FIA’s own legal costs.
• Pirelli be reprimanded in the terms of the findings set out above.
• Pirelli shall pay one third of the costs of the investigation and procedure, as provided for by Article 13.2 JDR, excluding FIA’s own legal costs.
• FIA shall bear one third of the costs of the investigation and procedure, as provided for by Article 13.2 JDR, and all of its own legal costs.
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Re: FIA Formula One World Championship
« Reply #352 on: June 24, 2013, 06:00:21 PM »

Soon!
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Re: FIA Formula One World Championship
« Reply #353 on: June 27, 2013, 09:17:19 AM »

Mark Webber is retiring from F1 and will be driving a Porsche LMP1 car in 2014. 
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Re: FIA Formula One World Championship
« Reply #354 on: June 27, 2013, 09:43:19 AM »

Also, regarding the Webber Red Bull exit. This opens the door for Kimi in that seat. Oh boy!  :)

Although I did catch mention @ www.thejudge13.com that Paul di Resta might take the seat. Might be musical chairs for 2014. 
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Re: FIA Formula One World Championship
« Reply #355 on: June 27, 2013, 10:23:30 AM »

Also, regarding the Webber Red Bull exit. This opens the door for Kimi in that seat. Oh boy!  :)

Although I did catch mention @ www.thejudge13.com that Paul di Resta might take the seat. Might be musical chairs for 2014. 

Kimi in a Red Bull would be amazing! I'm glad Webber is making his own exit and heading back to sports cars... although I hope it turns out better this time and he keeps all 4 wheels on the ground...

1999 - Le Mans - Aftermath of Mark Webber's warm-up accident

(he flipped that car twice that weekend). The CLR was one of the meanest/most flawed cars ever built

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Re: FIA Formula One World Championship
« Reply #356 on: June 27, 2013, 10:52:47 AM »

Indeed, after that '99 flipping he said he would never go back to sports cars. Things have improved though and I believe Porsche will be strong in 2014. He should do quite well.
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Re: FIA Formula One World Championship
« Reply #357 on: June 28, 2013, 03:04:24 PM »

   
British GP: Friday Free 2 - Times
28/06/2013
Pos   Driver   Team   Time   Gap
1   Rosberg   Mercedes    1:32.248    142.855 mph
2   Webber   Red Bull    1:32.547    0.299
3   Vettel   Red Bull    1:32.680    0.432
4   Di Resta   Force India    1:32.832    0.584
5   Hamilton   Mercedes    1:32.911    0.663
6   Ricciardo   Toro Rosso    1:33.171    0.923
7   Vergne   Toro Rosso    1:33.290    1.042
8   Sutil   Force India    1:33.313    1.065
9   Grosjean   Lotus    1:33.322    1.074
10   Alonso   Ferrari    1:33.494    1.246
11   Button   McLaren    1:33.740    1.492
12   Hulkenberg   Sauber    1:33.896    1.648
13   Raikkonen   Lotus    1:34.120    1.872
14   Perez   McLaren    1:34.130    1.882
15   Gutierrez   Sauber    1:34.998    2.750
16   Bottas   Williams    1:35.070    2.822
17   Maldonado   Williams    1:35.127    2.879
18   Bianchi   Marussia    1:35.802    3.554
19   Van der Garde   Caterham    1:35.984    3.736
20   Pic   Caterham    1:36.079    3.831
21   Chilton   Marussia    1:37.329    5.081
22   Massa   Ferrari    1:43.466    11.218
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Re: FIA Formula One World Championship
« Reply #358 on: June 28, 2013, 03:24:07 PM »

Indeed, after that '99 flipping he said he would never go back to sports cars. Things have improved though and I believe Porsche will be strong in 2014. He should do quite well.

Yeah. Porsche's don't flip... oh wait...

Porsche 911 GT1 Lemans Flip


And what happened to Massa? Tell me he isn't that slow!

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Re: FIA Formula One World Championship
« Reply #359 on: June 28, 2013, 03:45:15 PM »

Massa crashed, again.
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